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Discussion in Tips & Tricks started by mainestriper (unclaimed legacy handle), Jul 9, 2009. 32 replies, last reply Nov 14, 2009.

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mainestriperUnclaimed legacy handle
mainestriperUnclaimed legacy handle

I really don't want to get into name calling. Maybe I just made that up. Four feet? I did a crosshatch in front of a light pole that extended into the lot with a 7 foot width and watched someone park a Smart car in there with room to spare.

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FonzUnclaimed legacy handle
FonzUnclaimed legacy handle

Quote Fascinating. Reminds me of Little Johnny............ The Teacher asked the class to use the word "Fascinate" in a sentence. Jane raised her hand and said " I went to Grampa's farm and found it fascinating" The Teacher said "That's good Jane but I wanted you to use the word fascinate. Mary raised her hand and said, "I was fascinated by the animals in the zoo." The Teacher said, "That's good too Mary, but I wanted you to use fascinate remember? Little Johnny waved his hand back and forth like crazy but the Teacher had been burned by Little Johnny before. Finally she figured there was no way Johnny could caiuse trouble with the word fascinate. "Ok Johnny what's your sentence?" Johnny replied, "My Aunt Rita has a blouse with ten buttons......but her t*ts are so big she can only fasten eight."

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sandmanjpdUnclaimed legacy handle
sandmanjpdUnclaimed legacy handle

Thanks Fonz.

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Markings #1Unclaimed legacy handle
Markings #1Unclaimed legacy handle

Do I need use 50' of 3/8" diameter Graco Paint hose for good lines? ....Dear Graco, Just what is the formula you use to obtain just the right amount of "X" expansion in the hose lines? Firstly, Graco hose.. ah ...well seems to "sucks" in regards to being too stiff. Secondly, 3/8" diameter hose is a step backwards for any hand work. I have no empathy towards Graco for having me use 3/8" hose for hand work!!! Thirdly, I like hand spraying with 1/4" hose, and don't wouldn't mind a long 3/16" whip hose as well. But,I am open to options, None of which Graco seems bothered to inform me about? -- some kind of compromise like an initial 25 or 33 Ft of Fat max, then 50' of 1/4" hose might work for me, although I got to say, I do not love the 20 pounds of hose connections, swivels and springs, that come along with the fat max paint hose set up, as you can put a softball size dent in a car if your not careful about whipping that huge hose connection around while trying to straighten out that honking stiff and heavy figure-eight of a paint hose. Fourthly, enough ranting. WHAT IS THE SCIENCE TO GET THE MAGICAL EXPANSION FORMULA REGARDING HOSE EXPANSION...DO I HAVE TO DO IT WITH SOME HUEMONGUS HOSE SOME FREAKING GEEK THOUGH UP WHO HAS NEVER PAINTED AN ARROW, OR A STENCIL IN HIS LIFE EXCEPT FOR MAYBE AT THE BI-ANNUAL GRACO-EMPLOYEE DEMO DAY & BARBECUE?

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CormacUnclaimed legacy handle
CormacUnclaimed legacy handle

Markings #1, why not put a 1/4 X 50' hose on and see how it performs. If I ran a striping business, I would have changed mine out long ago. More than likely it would be perform satisfactorily, but I cannot say for sure since I do not know your paint, climate, habits, etc. Here are just a few of the things that influence how a coating sprays that Graco has no control of: ambient temperature, paint quality or consistency, age of paint, type of paint used, new paint formulations introduced, and on and on. As a manufacturer, you have to cover all the existing bases, and then go above and beyond. It is called covering your .... Regarding your rant: There are better ways to seek help.

Cormac, Report#25
Markings #1Unclaimed legacy handle
Markings #1Unclaimed legacy handle

Thank you Cormac. And, I know. I get a little keyed up after doing several hundred stencils using a spray gun at the end of a fire hose. The points you touched on are enough to help me empower myself towards figuring out what is good for my situation. I think a regular hose would work for most of the year, with a Fat hose possibly being more beneficial when spraying below 45 degrees. In dead of winter: * fat hose if doing an important or large "Striping" job * warm Paint/keep paint warm * add thinner as needed Does this sound simple, workable, and concise enough?

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CormacUnclaimed legacy handle
CormacUnclaimed legacy handle

Works for me. I'd even push the limits. The machine/paint combo will tell you when and if it needs help. All it will cost you is a 1/4" hose and fittings. If you are using fast dry waterbornes try to stick to fittings off the Linelazer family. Most if not all should be E nickel plated not zinc.

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skimikeUnclaimed legacy handle
skimikeUnclaimed legacy handle

I threw that fat hose combo in the trash. I only use a 50 ft x 1/4

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TEAMC2Unclaimed legacy handle
TEAMC2Unclaimed legacy handle

If it works use it!! if it dont work try something else

TEAMC2, Report#29
jpanzUnclaimed legacy handle
jpanzUnclaimed legacy handle

I added a 25ft 3/16 hose for stenciling and hand work, Its like the is no hose attached to the gun. I wouldnt paint long lines with the thin hose because it does heat up but works great for under a *23 tip.

jpanz, Report#30
Markings #1Unclaimed legacy handle
Markings #1Unclaimed legacy handle
jpanz wrote on Nov 14, 2009:Go to #30

I added a 25ft 3/16 hose for stenciling and hand work, Its like the is no hose attached to the gun. I wouldn

't paint long lines with the thin hose because it does heat up but works great for under a *23 tip. I've got a 1/4" X 50' + 3/16" X 25' hose 'combo' on a Hydraulic Spee Flow, and have never thought about checking it for heat build up, although I rarely use a tip larger than .23 orifice. Are you talking about seriously long lines or Airport type of work? Is the heat problem part of Graco's reason for the 3/8" hose? I alway asuumed it was to help stop 'hour glassing' because Spee Flow was kicking thier butt in that catigory whith the pre-Titan 'Spee Flow' Hydralic Striping Machines?

Markings #1, Report#31
Markings #1Unclaimed legacy handle
Markings #1Unclaimed legacy handle

Quote from: Markings #1 link=topic=6120.msg 40951#msg 40951 date=1258216562 Quote from: jpanz link=topic=6120.msg 40947#msg 40947 date=1258169826 I added a 25ft 3/16 hose for stenciling and hand work, Its like the is no hose attached to the gun. I wouldn't paint long lines with the thin hose because it does heat up but works great for under a *23 tip. I've got a 1/4" X 50' + 3/16" X 25' hose 'combo' on a Hydraulic Speed Flow, and have never thought about checking it for heat build up, although I rarely use a tip larger than .23 orifice*. Are you talking about seriously long lines or Airport type of work? Is the heat problem part of Graco's reason for the 3/8" hose? I always assumed it was to help stop 'hour glassing' because Spee Flow was kicking their butt in that category with the pre-Titan 'Speed Flow' Hydraulic Striping Machines? * Yes, I normally use a 325 striping tip (especially when doing production striping -- 'was misspoken about the .23 orifice).

Markings #1, Report#32
jpanzUnclaimed legacy handle
jpanzUnclaimed legacy handle

I run a 325 most of the time, and a warn out 325 so its spraying more of a 27 than a 25. In a big job over 1000 lines you will feel the heat from the friction.l Other than that I love the thin hoses

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