200 HS set up questions

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Discussion in Striping & Marking started by accur8 (unclaimed legacy handle), May 22, 2006. 8 replies, last reply May 23, 2006.

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I took my new 200 HS out with my line driver for the first time. Im running a 2-19 tip ,4 inch stripe at 2000 psi ,the computer is showing 8 Mils.Striping at this time 4 mph. As I get better ill go faster. Is this proper set up for the speed and mil thickness, any suggestions, Thanks Accur8.

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BornToStripeUnclaimed legacy handle
BornToStripeUnclaimed legacy handle

That's about right for a new tip, the mil thickness will increase as the tip wears. When you get it down pat you can go to a 321 and even a 323 tip if you are comfortable with it. Unfortunately GRACO does not make a 221 tip I use 219's for most everyday striping, but switch up to 321's and 323's for higher speeds.....

BornToStripe, Report#2
jpanzUnclaimed legacy handle
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Why run a 219 in a 200hs. You are not getting the production that the machine is designed for. I would run at least a 321 until you get use to it and than a 323 or 325 to get the production to use a 200hs and a rider. Jim

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sdstriperUnclaimed legacy handle
sdstriperUnclaimed legacy handle

I'm with Jim. 321 or 325, I have a couple 321's that I should pin for kicks.

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krisUnclaimed legacy handle
krisUnclaimed legacy handle

A few years ago I ran a 217 tip for doing tennis and basketball courts. This tip did not even come close to painting a 4 inch line. Don't know how you guys are doing it. 3 series tips are better but have you ever done a restripe with a 2 series tip when the guy before you painted something like a 5 inch line? Lately I've been using a 421 and its great because crosswalks and stop bars are done faster just raise the gun up about half way and still get a good line.

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BornToStripeUnclaimed legacy handle
BornToStripeUnclaimed legacy handle

The 2xx tip has the advantage of less line width variation on rougher pavement, with less chance of splatter. Also your gun is not so close to the pavement, so hitting parking bumpers and curbs is less likely. It's simply a matter of choice. If you cannot get a 5" line with a 2xx tip, your pressure may be too low. I can get a 6"+ line at max elevation. For very wide lines, a 3xx or 4xx is the tip to go with. As to accur8's post, it sounds like he is still getting used to the 200HS and is more interested in perfecting his machine handling than speed at this point. The 2xx is fine for that. Once he is comfortable with the machine, moving up to a 32x tip is the next step.

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dbarnetttUnclaimed legacy handle
dbarnetttUnclaimed legacy handle

I've been striping for about eight years and have never even owned a 2XX tip. Like Kris, I find it hard enough to get a 4-5 inch line out of a 317 or 319. Personally I think it has to do with the brand of paint. The only time I've even thought I could use a 2XX tip was with some S/W lead free CR. I've pretty much always used Aexcel CR (my preference) and in most cases it requires some thinning/mixing. It just seems to come a little thicker than S/W paint(you can always thin paint, but you can't make it thicker). I usually use a 419 until it gets warm (85deg+), then I use a 319. I know that a larger orfice(X21) allows you to stripe a little faster, but on rougher lots, I'd recommend a x17-x19 so you're not bouncing all over the place. As far as gun height goes keep in mind the higher you raise your gun the fuzzier you edges will look. If you're having problems bumping curbs consider spinning your tip guard 180 degrees. that will give you an extra inch or so to stop. You might also consider slowing down a bit. SPEED IS NOT EVERYTHING . Not to brag, But I just took a job, from a local striping company, because one of his "guys" was flying around on his driver at light speed putting down a "transparent" coat of paint when a potential customer was watching. Also note that my estimate was $600 more . What does that tell you? Quality sells . Plus the property next door asked for a quote while I was on site. Double whammy.

dbarnettt, Report#7
\\\STRIPES///Unclaimed legacy handle
\\\STRIPES///Unclaimed legacy handle

That was probably Raul. He has been taught that extra paint is not necessarily quality. We intentionally do not paint with "ripples" in the surface. Quality is when there is enough paint not to wear nor peel prematurely. There is a delicate balance that should be explained when talking to the customer. Raul certainly wouldn't take the time to educate the bystander that was watching. There are some pictures of our "transparent" paint in the current (May) issue of "Pavement". Didn't I send you some work recently? We are working on a dookey pot full of U.S. Post offices up in the north DFW area and will probably need to share some.

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wendUnclaimed legacy handle
wendUnclaimed legacy handle

I personally think a 419 is excellent for training. I always start my lads off on a 419 tip, the tip gives you no option but to take your time and perfect your line. If you don't have gage to show you how many microns(wet) you are spraying down then you don't want ripples and you don't want to see the substrate underneath your line, that's a simple rule to follow. I won't let them use a X2X until I know they are able to handle the speed and still do a nice line. I would not keep them on a 419 permanently because doing that in my opinion completely defeats the purpose of having a pumps like the 200hs or 8900.

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