ADA sign on steel tube

As Bufhawk mentioned in the Walgreen's thread, I've had inquiries from some general contractors about the 2 x 12 steel tube with the ADA sign on it. I asked one vendor. They offered to fabricate an aluminium/ powdercoated / finsihed version for about $600.00 each. Of course, then you have the installation cost etc... With these dimensions core drilling wouldn't be an option. I would think you'd have to saw-cut the base area, or catch the concrete guys when they pour the slab. Is this just another ignorant idea from some architect, who's never left his office or will these things be the next thorn in our side? Maybe they're going for that "architectural" sign look. However, if they think this will stand up to a 3000 lbs vehicle any better than what's currently out there, I'd be happy to show them some 6-8" concrete filled bollards that are leaning just the same. Just curious what anyone's charging for the whole she-bang( materials +installation ) and where to get such a beast. I haven't called the local steel supply, but I'm sure even the steel tube alone is pricey. If any extensive installation work(saw-cutting) is required, I'd guess about $1000.00 plus each. But, I REALLY don't like guessing on stuff like this! Help, Anyone?

dbarrnettt: Why you can in fact core drill for that size of post very easy. as for fabrication of that size of a post no need, find yourself a vendor with those size of sign post. here are a couple that i know of. Braco Products [phone removed] National Sign Company [phone removed] US Striper [phone removed] I am sure that if you were to look around that is at least one sign company within easy driving distance from you that would have all of the post requirements you would need. As for the cost of installation of post and steel bollards it runs from $80. for core drilling only to $250. total installation with materials 6" steel bollard with sign post. I can core drill from 3" to 12" through almost any material. Just my thoughts Bob

I have installed 2"x12", they specified 1/4" wall thickness galvaninzed steel. I had to purchase the structural steel tubing, cut to length, then have it galvanized. I have a couple dozen installed now. They look monumental.

I have tried to encourage customers to go with a above ground concrete base for their signs. This eliminates broken bent signs. This company makes a base and uses the 2" square channel for the posts, very nice. I believe that I am going to make my own forms and make these bases with square insert for 2" channel. http://www.bushconcreteproducts.com/index.html Patriot

I had an opportunity last month to bid on a new Super Target that had 47 handicap stalls requiring the 2 X 12 tubes for the signs. Requirements were to paint the tubes (Target color) and then drill or cut through the concrete to install at a depth of 2 feet. Getting the concrete crew to install them when they poured the slab wasn't an option because they were afraid that the tubes would end up in the wrong place therefore causing more potential problems. I declined to bid for a few reasons. One was because I have read about Target being very slow to pay from others on this sight. Another reason was because I could see this being a nightmare to cut or core drill through the slab (47 times) and then remove enough earth to sink the tubes to 2 feet. Third reason was because the superintendent made the comment that he had another bid and thought it was way too expensive. Seeing as I didn't know what would be a fair price for this undertaking, I would have gone way high myself to make sure I didn't lose my a--! I tend to agree with dbarnett regarding these tubes, however I am starting to see them more and more so I think I'd better start preparing to deal with them. As for core drilling, I sure hope my next attempt is easier than my last. Had some tie down anchors to install for some new helicopter pads that we painted at a local airport. Bought a $302.00 eight inch diamond bit and rented the biggest core drill I could find. It took 45 minutes to make it four inches through an eight inch slab. Had to take the drill back, get a compressor and ninety pound jack hammer to get the job done. Turns out the slab was poured in 1940 and lets just say it was really cured. It had stones in it the size of my fist. The core drill wouldn't touch it, but oh well, now I have a brand new bit for next time.

TexStripe wrote on Feb 25, 2006:Go to #5

. One was because I have read about Target being very slow to pay from others on this sight.

I did a lot of work for Target in the fall and had my checks within 20 days of submitting the invoices. With any large company, if you do not have you ducks in a row it will take forever to get paid. Jim

jpanz, was it re-stripe work dealing with Target direct?

If they want stupid sign posts give them a stupid price to install. Sounds like about $5,000.00 each. Never say "no I won't bid" just make your price high enough that they if you get the job you have to make money. Also if you know it is going to take a long time to get paid charge them enough to make it worth your while to use your money. You may be surprised at the high prices that get accepted. If there in the sidewalk then remove a section (4' x 4') instead of core drilling. cheaper to poor a 1/2 yard of concrete then rent a core drill and use up a bit.

yes it was