Blue ADA Striping w/ Cross Walk

Anyone ever thought about a BLUE Aexcel Guerilla cross walk with hash outs from the handicap spots with reflective beading? Pro's / Con's? This would be done on as a restripe over faded out white, which will be pressure washed prior to application. This area is very high traffic due to the popular upscale restaurants.

I would not change the color of the crosswalk unless you have approval in writing. The MUTCU does not recognize blue as a traffic color.

Jpanz, in Texas there are tons of places with blue handicap hash out and walkways. Some cities require it by ordinance and regulation. This is a parking lot. Not a road way for traffic.

Would be fine at the parking space but where it crosses a driveway it really should be white, blue will look almost black at night. Texas doesn't have a hard rule on color but the locals could have, always check with the local gestapo office to be sure.

straightline wrote on Jan 12, 2016:Go to #4

Would be fine at the parking space but where it crosses a driveway it really should be white, blue will look almost black at night. Texas doesn't have a hard rule on color but the locals could have, always check with the local gestapo office to be sure.

I can understand that it "could" be hard to see at night. Any one have any experience with the reflective bead application on blue and how it worked out?

The Peoples Republic of Kalifornia now require disabled access aisles and Paths of travel to be outlined in blue with the diagonal stripes to be white.

Calif Striper wrote on Jan 12, 2016:Go to #6

The Peoples Republic of Kalifornia now require disabled access aisles and Paths of travel to be outlined in blue with the diagonal stripes to be white.

More work= More Money!!!!!!!!!!

I would think twice about using beads on handicapped crosswalks if I were you, due to the fact that most handicapped persons with mobility issues already have difficulty in navigating their way as it is! Applying beads on the coating especially in wet weather will create a severe slippery surface for them! I'm sure you do not want any lawsuits coming back at you being as you were the contractor that placed the markings? If someone does fall and sues the property owner, the property owner will in turn sue you!

I would like to disagree with the beads making the markings slippery, when properly applied they provide a more abrasive surface than non beaded lines. ( loose beads are a different matter) The beads in blue will not show up very well and will most likely measure 50 mcd. where the same beads on white will be 330 mcd or more. The blue and white would provide a nice contrast to the crosswalks.

Loose or excess beads on either side of or on top of a dried binder should ALWAYs be removed by the sweeping or blowing process. You are correct only as far as the weather and pavement being DRY to give that abrasive benefit for traction to vehicles and pedestrian footing. Even if applied at the recommended rate of 6lbs. of beads per gallon, when the pavement is wet and pockets of water fill the gaps between the beads, you have the risk of slip and fall accidents. You must remember that beads are hard glass with smooth surfaces, even though rounded and just like being on ice that is a hard and smooth level surface, traction is lost on tires and shoe soles when surfaces are wet. I can personally attest to that condition because several years ago, while I was walking over a hot applied thermoplastic crosswalk while raining, I lost my footing momentarily. I did not fall but sure found out this was true! I have also seen several videos on YouTube from both here, in the U.S.A. and from Japan and China where people on bicycles and on scooters skidded on pavement markings when wet from traffic cameras.

AllStripeDFW wrote on Jan 12, 2016:Go to #3

Jpanz, in Texas there are tons of places with blue handicap hash out and walkways. Some cities require it by ordinance and regulation. This is a parking lot. Not a road way for traffic.

In 2009 the MUTC governs any public roadways including parking lot open to the public Jim

jpanz wrote on Jan 13, 2016:Go to #11

AllStripeDFW wrote on Jan 12, 2016:Go to #3

Jpanz, in Texas there are tons of places with blue handicap hash out and walkways. Some cities require it by ordinance and regulation. This is a parking lot. Not a road way for traffic.

In 2009 the MUTC governs any public roadways including parking lot open to the public Jim

I agree Jim! if it is open to the public the MUTCD needs to be followed!