Bollards

OK,I have this sign job to start soon,47 signs,30 of them in bollards,17 in dirt,all in 18 inches of concrete.You guys use anything to hold your signs upright after you install them so you can go on to the next one?I thought about doing the 12 inch hole and digging around it,but a bigger hole with an 18 inch ayger bit seems like the best way to go.

The auger is your best bet. We have not had a problem with the bollards staying upright after we poured the concrete. We also used a post mix, that had smaller gravel, and seemed better for that application. Our only worry, was that some kid would come by and push them or something, but fortunately that never happened.

Hi guys - we have a bunch of bollards coming up w/galv u-chan posts inserted w/signs. Ours are speced at 6" x 5' steel iin 24" hole, filled w/concrete and primed and painted safety yellow, with 8-10' galv post w/sign (handicap, fire, etc....). Takes us about 7-9 bags of concrete per. We charged $240 for this spring, and I felt that it was too low. Anybody have any feedback on the pricing? Also - have never used an auger - is this something that 2 guys could easily use? We're in Florida. Thanks, Don

Hi guys - we have a bunch of bollards coming up w/galv u-chan posts inserted w/signs. Ours are speced at 6" x 5' steel iin 24" hole, filled w/concrete and primed and painted safety yellow, with 8-10' galv post w/sign (handicap, fire, etc....). Takes us about 7-9 bags of concrete per. We charged $240 for this spring, and I felt that it was too low. Anybody have any feedback on the pricing? Also - have never used an auger - is this something that 2 guys could easily use? We're in Florida. Thanks, Don

Yes,a two man auger,which you can go to any rental store to check out,is pretty simple to use.Just calculate your material costs for the sign,post,bollard,paint,concrete,auger if you rent one,and the labor involved.I like to stripe a lot more than I like to install signs,but they make good money.We are in Tenn. and $240 would be too cheap for me,especially with bollards in concrete.They are just too labor intensive and take too much time to not charge what they are worth.For $240,your materials are a lot cheaper than mine.

Yes,a two man auger,which you can go to any rental store to check out,is pretty simple to use.Just calculate your material costs for the sign,post,bollard,paint,concrete,auger if you rent one,and the labor involved.I like to stripe a lot more than I like to install signs,but they make good money.We are in Tenn. and $240 would be too cheap for me,especially with bollards in concrete.They are just too labor intensive and take too much time to not charge what they are worth.For $240,your materials are a lot cheaper than mine.

Well you better be real careful on your pricing when it comes to bollards because things add up quickly. About two years ago I had to install 27 bollards with handicap signs on posts in each one and install 27 wheelstops at each one. First thing is the price of the 6"x5' pipe is gonna blow your mind, it did mine. Now you have to have the pipe delivered and that aint free, now how are you gonna get the pipe off of the truck, now you have to have a forklift/lull to get it off. I had to have about 25 of my holes cored since they were going into a concrete island, hopefully you dont have to. I didnt go the auger route instead I rented what was called a "dingo" by toro I believe and its a self propelled almost robot thing that had an auger bit on the end and it really did the business. My Mexicans came up with an ingenius way to get concrete in the pipe, they took a traffic cone, snipped some off the end, turned it upside and poured concrete down the pipe that way. I was doing a mall and the bollards were all over the place so i kept the forklift to run the pipe to all the locations and haul concrete bags etc.... The cost of the pipe, cost of delivering the pipe, cost of forklifts to get the pipe off, cost of renting the dingo/auger, cost to have the holes cored (sounds like you wont need this), cost of the posts and the signs, cost of the concrete, costs of the paint to paint, cost of the wheel stops and delivery fee, , cost of labor for 5 men came out to right at 8000.00 out of my pocket, fortunately I had like 16,400 or 16,800 on the job so I knew I was ok but dont underestimate the hidden costs of the job or the amount of time and labor it will take to complete. Im real worried for you at 240.00 a bollard.

Well you better be real careful on your pricing when it comes to bollards because things add up quickly. About two years ago I had to install 27 bollards with handicap signs on posts in each one and install 27 wheelstops at each one. First thing is the price of the 6"x5' pipe is gonna blow your mind, it did mine. Now you have to have the pipe delivered and that aint free, now how are you gonna get the pipe off of the truck, now you have to have a forklift/lull to get it off. I had to have about 25 of my holes cored since they were going into a concrete island, hopefully you dont have to. I didnt go the auger route instead I rented what was called a "dingo" by toro I believe and its a self propelled almost robot thing that had an auger bit on the end and it really did the business. My Mexicans came up with an ingenius way to get concrete in the pipe, they took a traffic cone, snipped some off the end, turned it upside and poured concrete down the pipe that way. I was doing a mall and the bollards were all over the place so i kept the forklift to run the pipe to all the locations and haul concrete bags etc.... The cost of the pipe, cost of delivering the pipe, cost of forklifts to get the pipe off, cost of renting the dingo/auger, cost to have the holes cored (sounds like you wont need this), cost of the posts and the signs, cost of the concrete, costs of the paint to paint, cost of the wheel stops and delivery fee, , cost of labor for 5 men came out to right at 8000.00 out of my pocket, fortunately I had like 16,400 or 16,800 on the job so I knew I was ok but dont underestimate the hidden costs of the job or the amount of time and labor it will take to complete. Im real worried for you at 240.00 a bollard.

Several weeks ago a car dealership called about fixing a bent bollard. A car carrier bent the bollard; standard three to four foot out of the ground. We charge $1300.00 to remove the old one, install a new one filled with crete and patch the asphalt, inculding paint and eye hooks for the chains that attach to it. They never blinded an eye. Don't know if they shopped or not. The work can be back braking, so you better get paid for it.

Thanks for the input, guys. It's been a year since we bid those - installed them 6 mos ago. Our specs call for an 18" square hole x 24" deep, plus the 6" bollard filled. We sawcut the sidewalk or asphalt and dig it out. Will try auger this time. Thanks again...we'll definitely kick up the price this time! /Don