Chlorinated Rubber vs Conventional Alkyd

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Discussion in Striping & Marking started by bushman (unclaimed legacy handle), Oct 2, 2006. 13 replies, last reply Oct 9, 2006.

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I would like some suggestions on which is better and why. I have always used the regular alkyd because it dries almost as fast as it is sprayed. I have been using SW alkyd and I just started using there CR and it takes three times longer to dry than the regular alkyd. I have a mall to do at night and I don't know if I can wait on the drying time of the CR. Any suggestions?

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Same problem here with CR red. I can't tell any difference in performance of CR alkyd over straight alkyd.

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Striping FoolUnclaimed legacy handle
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You kind of answered your own question. If you don't like the dry time of CR, use regular Alkyd. If you want something that drys even faster, try SW Acetone. Its seems to be more durable than regular alkyd and drys super fast, even on cool foggy nights. (there are drawbacks though, if you want to use it, ask about the drawbacks first)

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jpanzUnclaimed legacy handle
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Becareful of which SW acetone paint you use. There are 5 different version of the same paint and they all are not equal. Jim

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Striping FoolUnclaimed legacy handle

Hmm.. did not know that. Thanks

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AsphaltmanUnclaimed legacy handle
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Most CR paints are similar to regular solvent based paints, except that they contain a powdered additive called Chlorinated Rubber. The CR additive is said to enhance durability, and resistance to water, hence why CR is AKA swimming pool paint, it also dries a bit different, it will skin over the top, compared to regular solvent based. With all the gallons of CR we have sprayed and all the gals of regular solvent based, I cant say I have seen a difference. It seems as all to often paint MFG's keep messing with their formulas, and wether you use CR or not, you are bound to find good and bad with every company or every line. We have gone months using Sherwin, and love it, then they tweak something and it starts to spray like crap. We have not found a real good consistant paint in the last several years. We are currently using ICI (private labled Aexcel) and are having great luck.

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Busham Asphaltman is right, also with C/R you should not be seeing the drying time difference you are experiencing, granted the c/r takes a tiny amount of time longer to dry but not 3 times or even twice. It's definitely a manufacture problem with the paint. The difference with C/R it is more flexible , better adhesive qualities and should not be as brittle as alkyd and if manufactured correctly is a far better wearing paint. Also when spraying C/R over old c/r the paint mixes in as apposed to alkyd where it just sits on top. If you need more info email this company and address it to Rob Dunn he's the guru on paint formulas etc. http://www.damarindustries.co.nz/webdamar/website.nsf/vwW…

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autolinesjakeUnclaimed legacy handle
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When I had a Kelly Creswell I used Franklin Paint CR. It was the best paint I ever used. I wish that was the same for the piece of crap machine I was using. I switched to latex for ease of cleaning. I do use frankin CR when it gets cold. It has never let me down. I just don't like the chemicals in it. I'm not a big fan of toliuline. SW CR is totaly different. It is inconsestant. Im thankful for the good paint we have up here in the northeast. I have even spoken directly to the chemist at Franklin when I have a question. Can anyone else say that of any other mfg?

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Yep. I had an Ennis Paint chemist come out to a jobsite to witness something concerning their paint.

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DomingoUnclaimed legacy handle
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STRIPES, What kind of or rather if any problems did you have with Ennis? I have had good luck with their paint. Domingo

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It would not atomize without excessive thinning. I've heard they fixed the problem.

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AsphaltmanUnclaimed legacy handle
AsphaltmanUnclaimed legacy handle

Another past (maybey still current) issue with Ennis, they have purchased several large paint Mfg's in the last several years, and I assume have incorporated several mix designs into new formulations. We left when the products got too in-consistant, would "track" or also like Ken said just not atomize.

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J & K StripingUnclaimed legacy handle
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jpanz wrote on Oct 3, 2006:Go to #4

Becareful of which SW acetone paint you use. There are 5 different version of the same paint and they all are not equal. Jim

Can you elaborate on the differences alittle? I live in the Baltimore, DC region and can no longer get oil based paint so I have been using the latex. Was considering using the Acetone but wanted to hear what you had to say about the different mixs. Thanks

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rasabatUnclaimed legacy handle
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I've used Diamond Vogel C/R and it seemed to work well,,, otherwise I use SW oilbase Set Fast works great too. Just my 3 cents...................Rick

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