Laser Line
Discussion in Striping & Marking started by Rock (unclaimed legacy handle), May 18, 2015. 44 replies, last reply Jul 14, 2015.
I picked one up earlier this year and have used it on a few jobs so far and think it is okay. One job was at night and it was AWESOME! But if it is during the day, the visibility is lacking. The sun makes it extremely hard to see! I haven't tried it on a cloudy day, but I think it would work. So overall I like it and if most of your work is at night I think it would be perfect. I did buy it with the shadow box, but have not tried that yet.
I bought one end of last year. It is great at night and during the day with the shadow box. You just have to make yourself take the 5 min at the start of the job and set it up. It is hard to break old habits so I dont use it as much as I should. You also have to be careful to make sure it is calibrated.
It is the real deal. It is great at night because you do not need to continually move the shadow or target box. I am not nocturnal so I use it in the daylight where the shadow box is a necessity in order to see the laser. If you want efficiency, this is the product. For the one person operation, you can see yourself on the video at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=64&v=NlwLXapJxck Even if you don't have an auto layout line laser, you can still save a lot of time by not having to chalk or string any lines for new striping. Just get your starting point and ending point like usual and away you go. If your machine is aligned to produce a straight line, after a little experience it only takes a minute or two once the laser and its power pack is installed to produce straight lines without chalk lines or helpers holding a string line. The $1,000 or so price tag may not be in everyone's budget, but it will be some day. I would however get a pusher before I got the laser. May the force be with you.
I went to NPE in January. I was POSITIVE that I was going to buy this device... so I took the laser seminar that was being offered. I came away totally unimpressed... mainly because of how the seminar was a complete "sales pitch" for that specific item as opposed to a seminar on "how to stripe with lasers". I will tell you that the device definitely works. It produces a strong green line. One that fans out over a long distance so I can definitely see it marking the ground clearly and it doing exactly what it was designed to do. No doubt it performs very well. This is absolutely a night time kind of device. My caveats with it... 1) Overall price is -ridiculous- but I was willing to pay the $1000+ for the laser set up but $80 for a target box? I'm all for markups but that's just an insult. 2) The work involved with moving the target boxes. I still have to get off my striper or buy multiple target boxes and possibly even weight the target boxes down. It is super-FLIMSY. 3) I think I would rather use an employee to move the target boxes as opposed to eliminating an employee with the laser set up so I'm not seeing the savings in costs as quickly as they claim. Hmmm... interesting. My biggest problem with it is the entire target box concept. I hate it. I hope that someone will get an easier solution figured out one day. It'll be tough though. I can't imagine any other way it'd work. Ultimately, I ditched my plans to buy one at NPE and took my money home. This does NOT mean that I won't buy one. I just lowered it on my priority list for the time being. I guess I'd like to see if costs come down a little or a better solution to the target box solution first.
I have had one for sometime now, at night it works great, I agree during the day the shadow box concept is not as functional as I would like, have been considering making a few taller targets, as when you are on an uneven surface its easy to go above or below the box. it does make a good pointer as it can be quickly moved to where its needed. I also use it one the striping truck at times to have an extra pointer. and seems like it would be great at night for laying out x-walks. That said, cant get my guys to use it, so unless I'm using it, sits in the office.
Rock wrote on May 19, 2015:Go to #8I called and they said it was $1,100. I wonder how it would work in a warehouse. Does it broadcast a long green line across the floor.
Yes, it's a hefty price. Ask and see if they will match the "show special" price from NPE. It's only a few bucks less. Still $1000+ but money saved is money saved. Like others have said... it works great in low-light situations. It's direct sunlight that is the problem. The green line was illuminated inside the room very well at the seminar with all the lights on. At worse... you'll have to ask them to dim the lights a little but I think you'll be just fine with it.
Purchased one from my paint Rep last week with 2 sight boxes. He dropped it off at my shop and within an hour I called him and told him to come pick it up. The laser was completely invisible in the sunlight even if you pointed it directly on the ground in front of you 6" from the asphalt. The boxes are a joke. Plastic and Velcro. My current $15 red laser is 10X more visible than the $1000 laser. It also only projects a beam and if you wanted a dot you have to purchase an optional lens. The slightest movement up or down of the striper sends the beam out of the box and it takes 5 minutes of moving it around to find the beam again. I suppose that on a perfectly flat surface, at night, it may be helpful but the sell is for daytime use. Save your money. Tat007
If you know how fabricate steel and where to find them its not hard to make one. We have been using a line laser at night for three years, and this you we are using a beam laser during the day. With the beam laser we do not use a shadow. We tried, when the parking lots not being totally flat the beam can go up and down a foot or two. we use a orange barricade with a silver reflective stripe down the middle. It works great. We had a field engineer for the first time watch us do it and was impressed by how straight the lines were and also how fast we did it. I will post some pictures of me using our laser.
Try This link to see the over head view of our line laser https://www.facebook.com/jim.panzenhagen/videos/vb.143855…
jpanz wrote on May 21, 2015:Go to #13Try This link to see the over head view of our line laser https://www.facebook.com/jim.panzenhagen/videos/vb.143855…
I see you have a drone too.
Japanz, The laser and cones sound really intriguing as something that may work for us. A flat lot is almost unheard of here in the mountains and night work is very rare for us. Can you give a few more details on the beam laser you are using and the reflective tape you put on the cones.
Milt wrote on May 22, 2015:Go to #17Japanz, The laser and cones sound really intriguing as something that may work for us. A flat lot is almost unheard of here in the mountains and night work is very rare for us. Can you give a few more details on the beam laser you are using and the reflective tape you put on the cones.
This thursday we have another daytime layout. I will take a lot of pictures showing the process. Jim
is this a pointer laser or what is it? we bought one at the atssa show but is just a pointer i hardly can see it during daylight, but after that i went to a gun show and bought another pointer but that one is a lot better and cheaper too it shows a huge green light.
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