Receivables Factoring

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Discussion in Tips & Tricks started by ApexPM (unclaimed legacy handle), May 9, 2009. 14 replies, last reply Dec 5, 2009.

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I am wondering if any of you use a receivables factoring company? If you dont know what that is, see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factoring_(finance) . If so, what are your impressions of it and if you could, explain a few of the pros and cons. It seems like a fairly good idea especially in the current economic slump. Unfortunately we have a higher than normal amount of slowpayers right now so we have been researching this factoring idea. Any thoughts or help would be appreciated!

ApexPM, Report#1
TrafficSafetyOutfittersUnclaimed legacy handle
TrafficSafetyOutfittersUnclaimed legacy handle

We get these offers all the time. IMO I would never get involved in this practice unless you are looking to close your business and need quick cash to clear the books.

TrafficSafetyOutfitters, Report#2
LaredoStripingUnclaimed legacy handle
LaredoStripingUnclaimed legacy handle

I heard of this pactice a ling time ago. What re the payouts?

LaredoStriping, Report#3
Calif StriperUnclaimed legacy handle
Calif StriperUnclaimed legacy handle

Aggressive collecting will pay bigger dividends. Calling daily and asking for the owner and never taking an easy answer. I bet there is a book of guide lines for this. Remember the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Be a squeaky wheel, Unless they don't ever plan on paying you they will want to shut you up. A factoring company as I understand it wants a % of all of your receivables not just the slow ones and the rate will be based on the # of slow ones that you have. You'll give up a lot.

Calif Striper, Report#4
LaredoStripingUnclaimed legacy handle
LaredoStripingUnclaimed legacy handle

forget it then. I rather be the squeaky wheel.

LaredoStriping, Report#5
ApexPMUnclaimed legacy handle
ApexPMUnclaimed legacy handle

I looked into it a little more and even talked to a company about it. The sales weasel makes it sound so enticing. Then we talked numbers and percentages.... I'd rather be a squeaky wheel. Thanks for the info though!

ApexPM, Report#6
whitelineUnclaimed legacy handle
whitelineUnclaimed legacy handle

have your attorney send a lien letter... much more effective...and probably cheaper

whiteline, Report#7
DonUnclaimed legacy handle
DonUnclaimed legacy handle

Just a note: We have been asking NPCA members if they would be interested in a discount collection firm as a benefit. There is a company willing to work with the NPCA members for a smaller % than the normal firms--of course these are for deadbeats; not the regular customer you know is always a slow pay. If they don't get results they don't get their % so if you are an NPCA member stop by the member's forums and voice your opinion; they are needing am answer pretty quick and the % they are offering is VERY reasonable for those tye firms.

Don, Report#8
PROCUT1Unclaimed legacy handle
PROCUT1Unclaimed legacy handle

Receivables factoring does have benefits. As a rule my payment terms are 50% down and balance upon completion. I RARELY invoice anyone. The only times I invoice are for established customers who I know dont nit-pick bills. They are the ones that will just call my office and say "1234 Smith street office complex" can you have Joe stripe that for us. No "I need 3 bids" no committee meetings, no long drawn out contracts. etc. I have a very small handful of those customers. They just call, give an address, and say "stripe it". I fax them my "short form contract" which is one page just authorizing the work. We do the work, send a bill, and I have a check in a few days. You cant beat a customer like that. Where receivables factoring would help is a scenario like this. I have a very large apartment complex company that I work for. They own a ton of complexes. Every sealcoating job for them is $40,000 +. Here is the problem: They WILL NOT issue a deposit. No exceptions. They pay 60-75 days after invoice. Now that goes totally against my terms, and I dont like it one bit. However.....They DO PAY. So im left to decide.....Do I want the job on their terms? Or do I let a competitor do it? Yes, the risk is huge. But so is the payout. If I do 2 of their complexes, I have to front 30,000 in material and wait 60+ days to get paid. My suppliers get paid at the end of the month. So either way Im out. A receivables factoring company would buy that invoice and pay me on the spot at a discount. So I get a little less money but I get paid now and they wait the 60 days. Its a great idea for some instances. I have a private person who does this for me so I dont need them but If I didnt have this guy, I would have no choice but to either find a factoring company or turn down the work because I dont usually have that kind of money to lay out.

PROCUT1, Report#9
skimikeUnclaimed legacy handle
skimikeUnclaimed legacy handle

it takes money to make money

skimike, Report#10
amazingUnclaimed legacy handle
amazingUnclaimed legacy handle

Ya think.

amazing, Report#11
WCoasterUnclaimed legacy handle
WCoasterUnclaimed legacy handle

PROCUT1 have you though of talking to your bank for line of credit on your receivables. In your scenario #2 this seems like a much better option. You may have to pay some interest pints but I am sure that is less than you are paying your private financier. You may also have to get your customer to provide a credit app or perhaps a letter of credit to your bank but probably worth the effort. Food for thought. This is an option for good customers. Obviously you can't take your deliquent receivables to your bank.

WCoaster, Report#12
linepainterUnclaimed legacy handle
linepainterUnclaimed legacy handle

We have all payments within 30 days of billing. After 30 days we send another invoice letting them know there payment is late. We also let the know if the payment is over 60 days we charge 2% interest per month up to 24% per year and let them know we will file paper work with local court for collection and they end up with paying the court cost. We don't have to go to court very often.

linepainter, Report#13
hiwaymarkUnclaimed legacy handle
hiwaymarkUnclaimed legacy handle

apex, keep whatever money you are owed for your own bank account....collection is part of every business and gets harder during tough times... just keeo on them or file liens....or talk to the godfather..........

hiwaymark, Report#14
LaredoStripingUnclaimed legacy handle
LaredoStripingUnclaimed legacy handle

who is this godfather you keep mentioning....Got his number or website?

LaredoStriping, Report#15

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