Scarifier charge??

I am working on 2 bids that want prices for glass beads as well as just paint. How much do you charge extra for glass beads? I have a Line Lazer III 3900 which I am pricing the dispenser for. Any suggestions on what extra to charge for like clean up extra glass beads would be appreciated.

0.08 or 0.10 a l ft would be good

Thank-You

Wait for some more responses FL. I don't have time right now but I think that is too high, I would not get the job if I charged .10/LF extra for beads.

I would gladly like to have more responses, but the man is waiting on the bid. He had a pedestrain hit and his stop bars and the word stop stenciled is so faded the driver did not see it. He wants this done asap.

Private owner is definitely different than submitting a competitive bid against long liners etc in the road marking business. Figure the cost at 6 pounds per gallon, then you decide what the guy is willing to pay. At .40 per pound cost, it is .008/LF. You can triple the cost of beads and not worry about losing the work, sounds like a private owner to me, $10 bucks per gallon for beads is good money when they cost less than 2.50 per gallon. I get them from the same place I buy paint so there is no extra hassle involved, keep that in mind too.

Fine line - If you are just doing stop bars and stencilling you may not need a bead dispenser. For most stencil work you can just spread the beads on by hand. The same goes for the stop bar. Even government agencies do it this way. The only thing to remember is to get the beads down before the paint starts to skim over and start to dry (CR). If it is latex you have a little more time. A helper would be ideal, especially to spread the beads as you painted and carry around the stencil while you were pushing the machine. The cost of beads per stop bar and stencil would be a generous: $.50. The cost for a bead dispenser is about $600 for a single line dropper. You can figure what you would charge. If the person wants it done "yesterday", tell them that you know they are anxious and you could reschedule a few of your jobs and start their's i.e. today or tonight if they gave you the go ahead right now. Good luck.

If we are doing crosswalks or stencils that need beads we will add $5-10 to each stencil, so if we charged $50 to paint a crosswalk in front of a grocery store, we would add maybe $10 to sprinkle beads on it. If we have a whole parking lot that needs beads, and we have to use our dispenser, then we just add extra to the LF price. To figure that extra, we just add our estimated cost of the beads at 6lbs per gal and include a small percent profit, and that gives us our number..

I agree with stencil sprinkling. I worked for a pretty upscale outfit (Central Striping in Rancho Cordova) in Cali years ago. Lot of road striping and new intersections etc. They used a coffee can with ice pick sized holes in the bottom to sprinkle the beads. If you have hired help I guess you could do your stripes that way too if there where a limited number of them .

Thank-You guys. Is there any clean up you do of loose glass beads after it dries? Do you blow off and sweep up?

Shouldn't be any clean up with a dispenser, and if you sprinkle them on you should be OK as well, just don't over do it. Also glass beads can be very slippery if you were to spill some, so make sure you do clean up any spills. A hand blower works well.

Whats a good way to determine what to charge for scarifying concrete? Costs me $90 a day & $91 for the bits. I was thinking around $.25 per linear foot?? Is that to much?? What do you guys use to determine what to charge?? Thanks for the help Sean Paramount Asphalt

As much as you can get away with! We get anywhere from $0.35/lft to $1.5/lft for lines up to 5" wide. It is time consuming, noisy, dirty and dusty. There is also clean up and disposal of grindings to deal with on top of the cost for your machine and cutters.

I tell my customers it cost a lot more to remove lines than it does to apply them. I use $0.65 per foot and up depending. If you do this very often, it won't take long to pay for a scarifier, and carbide teeth last a long time.

I use a plastic miracle whip container from Sam's Club, they are big enough to get plenty of beads in but still small enough to ride in the hopper or a five gallon bucket or the bag, and you can still scoop out of a five ,hopper or bag without hassle. I drill three rows of holes in the lid and pour them onto stop bars etc, it covers more evenly and there is less mess than the broadcasting method (feed the chickens).

I'm not removing, just prepping the surface due to high amount of rubber and dirt buildup on the floor. I told him it would probally be cheaper using the scarifier than renting a floor cleaning machine and cleaning the entire floor. I plan on snapping the would be lines, scarifying over the snapped lines to make it paint ready, roll on the terrazzo sealer, let it dry, apply the CR paint & let it dry, then use another coat of terrazzo sealer on top. Sean Paramount Asphalt

We use a cheap garden watering pot from Wally-World, we had to drill the holes in the spout a hair larger, but it works great for all the hand sprinkling, it also holds enough beads to do several markings before re-filling.