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Wanted to repost this. Anybody have an "off the shelf" source for architectural sign posts, ie 2"x2" square tube posts, with a four hole mounting plate at the bottom. Can be Aluminum (preferred) or steel. These are for use where arkyteks do not want to use "unsightly" u-channels or perforated tube posts.

Check www.sa-so.com

Try this place: http://www.trafficsigninc.com/powder/

Don't bother with Sa-So unless you like paying 3 prices for something (I know, they are local, the only advantage is they have huge warehouses and almost everything is always "in stock") Ken do you know if Centerline has them?

Don't think so. I'd check with "Roadrunner Supply" They sell stuff at just above wholesale cost. [phone removed] Doubt that they'd have it but if anybody could get it they would.

I have use a square steel post and welded a plate to it and primedand painted them. This has passed the final inspection for me. But using the four bolts to anchor them doesn't work in front of the stalls. It seems that they pop the bolts out of the concrete very easy.

I have looked and looked. Only thing close was a sign "system" from a architectural sign company. A simple post set up would cost about $250. I'm back to making them.

Don't have a good source for you but you might check your state or local DOT for the "break away" posts. Around here they are a requirement on streets & highways now and there is bound to be a low priced place the DOT or city get's them (since they find low bids). They would be more expensive than the standard posts but you could probably "upsell" enough to cover the cost by pointing out if they were ever hit just the post would have to be replaced & the "mount" would remain intact making it quick & easy. I think the ones they use here are the square stuff like you are talking about...just a thought.

Got a call from PGT trucking to do some re-striping, plus some additional new lay out work. They are requesting that I lay out a box with NO-PARKING stenciled through out it. This box is going to be 70 ft x 114 ft, with 70 ft diagonal lines and painted in yellow. Its is going to be placed in between the building and a center line which I am putting in for the truck stalls. What type of paint would someone recommend for this box. The company is open 24-7.

Chlorinated rubber would be the most economical. Just advise the owner that paint will wear in high traffic areas , and maybe to plan on a restrpe in 6 months, then you could offer him a slightly reduced price to come out again and re-stripe. Major roads in my state are painted up to 4 times a year. You could look into using epoxy, however the cost is very high.

I have done a number of truck stops and had great luck with chlorinated rubber with glass beads like they use on roadways. I have the Graco applicator for the beads and they not only make the lines reflect light, but make them last longer.

Not sure what substrate your marking is it asphalt or concrete? ...but You could give your customer a number of choices with different prices. ranging from C/R to epoxy to two part cold plastic obviously the price increases with the quality of marking material, and time to apply it. The thing with cross hatching where trucks drive through is it's imperative you allow for longer drying time as the trucks are a lot heavier than cars, those truck wheels will lift the paint if it's not completely bone dry . You need to inform your customer about this. So they can arrange a suitable time for you to allow the paint to dry off completely.

BTS, There is a company named X-Squared that makes all kinds of stuff for square sign posts. I think I have their website address at the office. I'll check Monday when I go in. In the mean time you may want to do a Google search for them. Be carefull, there is a porn site named x-squared that I accidentally came across.

Don't warn BTS about that...he would consider it an unexpected "Job Benefit"...

My best advice would be to use a good paint and just let the owner know it will wear off if this is an area where trucks are prone to park. From extensive personal experience I can tell you that one thing tired truckers topping off the tanks and headed for the showers or coffee DO NOT EVER DO is pay any attention to no parking areas, cones, etc. etc. (One of my customers had to resort to the big highway barrels for blocking pumps when one was down for some reason) If they don't usually park there you will probably be OK but if it's a place that is convenient (read as close to something) for the truckers no amount of paint on pavement will keep them from parking there...so it will wear off (and I'm sure they probably don't want to pay for epoxy or thermo.) We had one area at a busy Petro we tried every combination you can imagine on...white on red, crosshatched, HUGE LETTERS on solid boxes with crosshatch, but it was closer to the restaurant so forget it was a drive lane (so they couldn't use curbs or bollards). They parked there always, after about 4 or 5 years the manager just gave up. Just a friendly tip so your customer won't be hacked if they park there anyway and wear out the paint regardless of how good it is...and Wend is right, let it dry as long as possible.

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BTS, The company with the sign post accessories is called Xcessories Squared. The website is: http://www.x-sqrd.com/

Thanks...the type of posts that are required for this type of application are square tube 2x2 aluminum, with and without flanged base, and in some cases the sign itself has to be welded to the post, which requires the sign face to be applied later. This type of post/signage system is used around here in hospitals, high end shopping centers and office buildings. Often it is powder coated a certain specified color. It looks like in-house fab is the way to go. Thanks for all the replies

TRY MATLACK SALES IN FAYETTEVILLE, [phone removed] THEY HAVE 2 INCH BASES AND POSTS.

How many do you need, when do you need them and where are they going to. I could make them up and have them powder coated in my shop. Will make them per your specification.